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Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:52 am

Re: Expect the Unexpected

It is a tad bit brighter in Verve as opposed to Photoshop. I did an auto contrast and color to see the difference. too bright
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Post Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:15 pm

Re: Expect the Unexpected

I have a bad sinus headache this morning. I may be working muted because it hurts less. I prefer the muted version of the previous 8-)
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:45 pm

Re: Expect the Unexpected

Tree study here using 2 layers. Created the bottom layer as a bump layer and painted another layer using the multiply blend option. So far more of a bark study lol :shrug:
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:16 pm

Re: Expect the Unexpected

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"Above the Clouds" is a good study , sky and this tree. i suggest that paint in multi layers and test screen/multipy/normal/visibility/opacity together merge do unexpected things. the rule different from photoshop. with couple of screen-multiply and adjust visibility-opacity of them you can control contrast-brightness. you can combine bump of layers with or without merge. when use a bumpy brush like 6, fill te layer crtlshiftF can match it borders with canvas. for 2nd and 3rd layer of paint you can add-remove paint insted add only. use ctrl /ctrlshift/shift/&even warp for make 2nd texture data and different view ... its nice for combine with texture brushes 7/8/9 and nice for layer compose tests. you can even save layers and lode again for flat lighting and relight it ...
sorry i cant speak coorectly in eng : ? ... i love speaking about styles . i know that mountain and this tree how much better then now with really small things . .. continue tartan*
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:46 pm

Re: Expect the Unexpected

I like discussing styles also :) Above the Clouds was an interesting study but I am probably going to go back and redo it and try and take it to a real final. Learned a bit on it, but I will go for more realistic on the fore mountain. That blue is making me cringe :D Mistakes are made to learn from said the wise man. I will try those techniques on the tree also but if I use it I will have to try and emulate that style in a complete image. That's a very pumped up height. It's like a Zbrush 2.5d stroke and could be a very complicated image.

I decided to stay simple here. When I am more confident I may come back and litter it with driftwood :)
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Post Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:09 pm

Re: Expect the Unexpected

+ continue in your way +
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:30 pm

Re: Crying For the Past

My way combined with your way is giving me interesting results Borhani :ob I have used several of your suggestions here. Especially digging into the paint. I wont be doing any offsets yet but these can be concepted further in Sculptris. I have created a number of new characters and concepts for my fiction. They are complementing each other well. :D

This was starting to look like a 70's album cover so I am calling it Crying For the Past :)
and the Band :) Titan Blue and the Penguins From Space
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Post Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:13 pm

Re: Expect the Unexpected

about symmetry
may help : ) i cant translate. if you cant too ... LOL ... no problem ... i wrote for you & mirrors 8 )

من خیلی دوست دارم جواب شما را آنطور که شایسته هست بیان کنم.
اما تفاوت زبانی باعث میشود جملات پیچیده خودم را که برای دیگران معمولا به زبان خودم هم ترجمه میکنم نتوانم برای شما توضیح دهم.
من تا حد کمی از متن هایی که مینویسید سردر می آورم.
اما با تصاویر و رنگ و طرح احساس آشنایی بیشتری میکنم.
میخواستم یک مورد که در تصاویر آینه ای هست که من به عنوان یک مفهوم زیبا به آن علاقه دارم. را برای شما توضیح بدهم شاید جالب باشد
وقتی یک تصویر به صورت قرینه عمودی و اصطلاحا آینه ای ایجاد می شود به راحتی از تصاویر دیگر قابل تمایز است.
انسان نظم طبیعی موجود در تصویر رابه راحتی و بدون صرف انرژی دریافت میکند.
یک تصویر آینه ای به راحتی آشناست. زیبایی مادگارتری دارد. آرامبخش تر و قابل اعتمادتر است. ظاهرا تکراری و واقعا صبور است
اما به مرور زمان بر قدرت و نفوذش افزوده میشود.
بدون ادعای اضافه نیرومند و گویاست ...
همه این موارد به یک مورد خیلی مهم برمیگردد.
قرینه ها ...
نیروهای تعاملی و پاسخگو و ارتباطات تشدید شونده و رفت و برگشتی
محورهایی نامرئی و ریل هایی پر رفت و آمد در پیکره های قرینه وجود دارد.
قدرت گروه و حرکت از فهم شباهت و از زیبایی همسانی و شگفتی تفاوت منظم
زیباتر از مشابهت، مجانست است، و بهتر از آنها، مطابقت
ربط های پیچیده تر و نظم های چندلایه و ترکیبی
این بحث طولانی و قابل گسترش است. اما چرا مطرح کردم.
من از مهارت های واقعی هنری شما اطلاع درستی ندارم اما تذکر این نکته برای همه مفید است و برای خودم حتی مفیدتر
قرینه ها زیباترین معمای اعتدال هستند
شما که برای مفهوم هایی نقاشی میکنید روی قرینه های تصویری و مفهومی میتوانید بیشتر تمرکز کنید.
تصاویر را تکمیل تر کنید . حرف من این هست که آینه ساده ترین نوع تقارن است.
نه اینکه تقارن را بدون دلیل بر هم بزنید. بلکه اگر امکان دارد آن را تقویت کنید. با جزئیات یا رنگ یا فرم های مناسب آن را تکمیل کنید.
من در چند تا از کارهای شما که حالت قرینه داشت دقت کردم و استعداد خوب و متفاوتی دیدم.
آخرین نکته که الان به نظرم می رسد هم این نکته هست که قرینه های خوب حس تکرار نمی دهند و نوعی تفاوت در سمت چپ و راست دارند
من خودم این را تجربه کرده ام. قرینه های خوب خود را ممکن است تا اندازه ای مخفی کنند.
روی حرکت از راست به چپ و چپ به راست می شود رد چندین راستا مطالعه کرد. من این مطالعه را بسیار دوست دارم.
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Post Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:06 pm

Re: Expect the Unexpected

Heh I am getting too old to learn a new language :lol: I can't translate. I wish I could. I have played with symmetry a long time with varying results but not in sketch or paint form. I know what you have written here is informative and took your time and I appreciate that :)

I watched Bill Alexander and he inspired me again :) I have spent so long doing 3d images, some really good and some really bad, that it's a lot harder for me to 2d sketch and then unfamiliarly jump into painting. Here is a very rough indicator sketch done in layers. Any suggestions are welcome before I jump in and mangle it even further :D
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Post Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:42 pm

Re: Expect the Unexpected

Does anyone know why that sometimes I save a project and staying well away from P and L, it comes back black instead of default background? I had done a rough sky and road and was about to tackle the mountains and decided to save. I am using maybe 15 layers, some are hidden as placeholders.
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