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My first adventure

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:22 pm
by godot
Hi there,
I found Verve Painter a few days ago and have to say that this is a great app. It is a great idea to simulate from dry to wet media using fluid dynamic.
When playing with Verve i got something like this:
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That process reminds me Turkish Art Of Marbling, also called ebru art. Below are some examples of ebru art:Image
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Besure to check this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWjyA5cCISE to see the process, it feels like painting in Verve! Maybe in the future update Taron will implement some tools for us to simulate that? :P

Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:08 pm
by Tartan
Beautiful piece and examples! The red flowers are delicately well done c:! :D

Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:30 pm
by Taron
Yeah, that is very inspiring! Beautiful stuff! :)
I keep refining and experimenting with my fluid formulas, which is kinda fun, but also a tiny bit frustrating, as always, haha. I really want to make some funky "fluid modes" for you all to experiment with. But if I get things right, we'll have this sort of marbling, too, I imagine! ;)

c:!
Welcome to the forum, by the way!

Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:59 pm
by godot
Taron wrote:Yeah, that is very inspiring! Beautiful stuff! :)
I keep refining and experimenting with my fluid formulas, which is kinda fun, but also a tiny bit frustrating, as always, haha. I really want to make some funky "fluid modes" for you all to experiment with. But if I get things right, we'll have this sort of marbling, too, I imagine! ;)

c:!
Welcome to the forum, by the way!

Thank you for the reply. I have been experimenting marbling techniques in Verve for a while and i believe that the fundamentals are already there in current version Verve. To do marbling, you can set the fluidity to high, fluid smudge to 0 so that the fluid movement will behave like oil and leave the bump at 0. The problem is that i found it is difficult to shape the colors as that in the video. Maybe i have chose wrong brush to do that or wrong brush setting. I noticed that they are using a wire/grid to make patterns in marbling, so it could be helpful if you can include a patterned canvas-size brush in future development.

Thank you again for this great app. It works totally different than other painting applications. It works just like you're painting with real world brushs and pigment. I have seeking for years for tools to mimic traditional oil painting techniques in digital, and Verve is the only one that works perfectly for me.Verve can do more than that i believe because the basic logic is that you can simulate any pigment media,from dry to wet, by using fluid dynamic(not usre actually because i do not understand programming). The excitement is just like the first time i use zbrush 1.5 beta. I know that it will be something and it is already on the way.
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Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:41 pm
by Taron
Uh, wow, you're a veteran already, just like me, ha! Sweet!
Yep, I do very much know just how crazy Verve will get. I am going crazy myself, not letting everyone have the next version already, haha, but I need to make the interface. It will be very important. I've got a set of features lined up that would probably bring some tears to some eyes...it kinda does to mine, haha, and I'm not being cocky, I'm kinda very serious, haha. :lol: 8-)
One funny little side effect of the already existing new features is that you can create your own brushes by painting them. That means you can totally create grids or what ever you wish for to work with the fluids. But there's much, much, much crazier stuff. MUCH! :D
...I almost feel mean, somehow...and stupid. Because that stuff exists for almost a year now and just because of the GUI I won't release it. Insane. Well, there are a few more things that still need some good amount of work, but well... :shrug: It'll come! :ugeek:

Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:25 am
by godot
Wow! What a great news! Could not wait to see the new release!
I'm recommending Verve to artists around here in China and i have translated the manual into Chinese. May i know how can i post in the manual section? Or do i need to send that to you?

Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:49 am
by Zeropainter
godot, very nice first verve-artworks from you :rock: :rock: :rock: and great news from taron :ob

Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:17 am
by Pilou
The excitement is just like the first time i use zbrush 1.5

Even previous version of ZB! :)
Super veteran! :beer:

PS Take a look of the Borhani59 multi first pages gallery (at today 127 PAGES)and you will see that the marble technic is yet possible with Verve! ;)

Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:24 am
by Taron
godot wrote:Wow! What a great news! Could not wait to see the new release!
I'm recommending Verve to artists around here in China and i have translated the manual into Chinese. May i know how can i post in the manual section? Or do i need to send that to you?


AWESOME! :bounce:
Thank you very much, Godot, that's fantastic, really. Thanks for everything already. :beer:

Here it is:
viewtopic.php?p=12615#p12615

Re: My first adventure

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:36 pm
by Pilou
t'll come!
:?:
Do you think that that we can wait till September after the hollidays?
Have a cool studious coding summer! :beer: