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Post Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:41 am

Re: With verve into the light

Very nice dear Knacki ;) - if you are on facebook there are a nice DRAWTHIS.COM COMMUNITY, you & @all other too will get there nice High-Res Refs. On youtube there is also every Friday a Model-Session, worth for a look. I have to spend more time for Anatomy/Perspective/light Studies too - my comic characters are (bit) weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug2Rt39-H80
Thats the first Session from May, you well get every Friday new ones too ;)

"Draw With Chris" Channel is good too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ8MkaLCWVU

Proko, Aaron Blaise in youtube too, and so on :)
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Post Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:33 pm

Re: With verve into the light

Working without any refs is quite frustrating.
One easily steps into old mistakes.
I will skip those tests for you.
But one funny thing happened:

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Post Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:48 am

Re: With verve into the light

Nice again ;)

The same with me, the best are real models or good photos, I see also - that 3D Refs from Bodys - I use DesignDoll are not so good :oops: - maybe later if I did have done some more studys from photos.

Taking photos as reference from yourself is a good option too ;) - I found some weeks ago a WIP from Noah Bradley, he did paint a landscape with 5-8 mens in the foreground, and the reference was Noah Bradley in 5-8 positions c:!
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Post Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:14 pm

Re: With verve into the light

The task or final target should be to be able to do it without refs.
But if you are not there, it's hard to stand the quality difference of your final result.
But learning is much better without reference or keep reference secondary, like I did with BW portrait.
One really need to think carefully and is exploring by understanding, not by copying.
Anyway a light reference can't harm.
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Post Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:46 am

Re: With verve into the light

Getting closer
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Post Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:12 am

Re: With verve into the light

You are speaking from my heart, Knacki! I used to say all these things almost literally so. The ideal, I believe, lies somewhere in between. While you can imagine a great deal of aspects and details, there are layers of observation you somehow have to learn before you allow them to become part of your imagination. The challenge is to keep all things where they belong. Once you start painting from a direct reference, it's its very own mode. Your brain lights up in a very different place than where it would, if you were to imagine things. And all that you learn, somehow wants to stay associated to this kind of mental activity. To train your understanding for purely imaginary painting by training with references, you must stay very strong to make the extra effort to translate what you see into understanding first. Imagine the whole form, visualize the nature of it, become the light in your head that touches the forms, illuminates the inside of where it can enter, spill around, bounce around... so you have to imagine reason for all that you see. Because if you do not, you actually hurt yourself by binding new associations to very different processes in your mind.

Now, Knacki, you're doing a mighty fine job already, really. It's creepy as heck, that mildly seasoned vampire lady, but she's very luminous. However, you tend to lose yourself in the individual portions, when you do lighting. It's as if you were shading from shape to shape, rather than considering the whole first and then pushing things into the light and pulling others away from it. It's hard to explain and even harder to master, but you need to develop a feeling for how to control the ins and outs of a large shape, rather than mastering the ins and outs by themselves.
So... take a ball and turn it into a pumpkin! First you shade the ball, then you carefully push and pull what will become the pumpkin. A hard single light is a good start, of course, but then you can use softer and softer lighting in subsequent experiments, see what it takes and what it doesn't take to make this happen.
To me, one of the absolute masters of tangible lighting, something you can understand when you're looking at it, but it will inspire you to gain control over it yourself, is Carlos Huante! Check out his drawings and paintings... he has learned from the masters and translated it into pure understanding.
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Post Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:31 pm

Re: With verve into the light

Awsome study, dear Knacki.
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Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:03 pm

Re: With verve into the light

Thanks for the feedback, really helps a lot.
And practise for sure.
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Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:04 pm

Re: With verve into the light

A quick Ref - freestyle mix
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Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:42 pm

Re: With verve into the light

That is great, Knacki! It looks so solid and graphic. You're most certainly on your way towards great powers there! :ob
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