Strange bug that makes Verve unusable


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Post Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:21 pm

Re: Strange bug that makes Verve unusable

tokyoscarab wrote:Just wanted to chime in and say that my experience is like the other person. The desktop application doesn't work, as I said, but the browser version works for me with no problems at all. So it seems like it's just that driver issue. While I haven't rolled my drivers back atm, I've been taking a small break from art, so hopefully AMD can get this fixed with a new driver update :ud:

I also really wanted to give a big thank you to Taron for making what is, at least in my opinion, THE BEST painting simulation program! I've tried so many other programs, but none of them come close to emulating the workflow and feeling of using oil or acrylics. I've been using Verve since around 2016 I think and it's my main art program. I did have a suggestion I'd like to make if it wouldn't be too hard to implement. I'm an oil painter and am used to mixing colors how you do with physical paints. I noticed that when smudging colors together in verve they don't mix quite how I expect them to do sometimes. For example, blue and yellow don't blend into green. While maybe not for everyone, it would be cool to have an option that does away with a color wheel and instead gives you a selection of paint colors to use that behave more to their real life counter parts. Just a thought anyways. Keep up the good work! :D

There's this "Mixbox: Pigment-Based Color Mixing"
source/code: https://github.com/scrtwpns/mixbox
Mixbox is a new blending method for natural color mixing. It produces saturated gradients with hue shifts and natural secondary colors during blending. Yellow and blue make green. The interface is simple - RGB in, RGB out. Internally, Mixbox treats colors as real-life pigments using the Kubelka & Munk theory to predict realistic color behavior. That way, colors act like actual paints and bring more vibrance and intuition into digital painting.

If it helps and can be implemented (preferably as a choice/checkbox) it would make this tool the real GOAT! to stare at :lol: :rock:
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Post Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:10 pm

Re: Strange bug that makes Verve unusable

Thanks, plankton, that's quite nice! :ob
It approaches pigments almost literally, like deterministic, if that's a correct way of saying so?! I've played with that idea early on, too, but feared it would be too CPU heavy. I'm still afraid that this will be, because looking at their code is almost more terrifying than what I conjured up, hahaha. BUT I might have a closer look at it again. Would definitely be awesome to offer a more familiar mixing behavior. Eerie and cool! 8-)
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Post Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:50 pm

Re: Strange bug that makes Verve unusable

Right on!
It be really great especially, if it was optional. After all, it's artistic choice only available to digital artists ;) Which was main reason for adding "Rebelle" to my toolbox. It has different feel, but nonetheless, is quite complementary. I also got XP-Pen16 (gen2) and there's no pressure, tilt, eraser, ... supported w/ Verve (?) Would you know, if there's anything I can do do about it (btw, Wacom's Bamboo worked fine, clumsy tho)?

EDIT (12/18/2024 09:24:26)
XP-pen drivers updated to latest version (4.0.5.241105, from Nov 29,2024 PM 16:47) - all issues resolved :ob c:!
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Post Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:42 am

Re: Strange bug that makes Verve unusable

Hurray! :bounce:
These driver issues on hardware stuff are really strange things. I mean, these are input devices that the OS allows access to and a software uses that access given by the OS. Hardware vendors should really ensure that they properly feed into the proper system pathways. :roll:
Verve takes advantage of pretty much all pen dynamics. I don't remember if i left barrel roll in there, but even that I had used. c:!
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