Verve style photoshop CC pencil


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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:45 pm

Verve style photoshop CC pencil

Once in photoshop CC I miss the verve style pencils. :?

The solution: a photoshop CC pencil that looks like a verve pencil ;)
VervePencil.zip
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Best is the "Verve Pencil 10 px big per default.
I don't know, maybe the used pattern is not exported. so here it is:
Verve_Pattern.jpg
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This is a quick and easy workaround, which looks good.

But to get an almost perfect result, you have to do following:
In verve hide all layers to save the canvas height map only with CTRL+SHIFT+S
Of course, save your picture as a layer with CTRL+S and one Picture of the background only to have exact same verve feeling.
Go to photoshop CC.
Open the height map.
Edit - > Define Pattern now you have the pattern of your verve canvas.

Load your background picture and your working layer in a new document.
Choose Verve_Pencil
Go to brush menu
click on texture
Click on little pattern picture top middle.
Scroll down to your new verve canvas pattern.
Click on it.
Put Scale on 100%

Now you pencil should react exactly on your canvas.
You can adjust DEPTH under "Texture Each Tip" to vary texture strength.
Once done, save it as a new brush preset.




Same way you can create other brushes reacting with canvas structure in PS.
Very cool and much more organic one would have expected from photoshop ;)


Have fun ;)
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:30 pm

Re: Verve style photoshop CC pencil

LOL, now you're trying to imitate Verve in Photoshop?!? :o :lol: Cool! 8-)
Anyhow, the upcoming version has a brush that can't be imitated by PS or any app I'm aware of. 8-)
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:23 pm

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I took my acorn thief over to PS, as I had a lack of resolution. I blew it up to 3000px by something.
But I also wanted the mushrooms to be transformed. Then I became aware that if I want to realize all my ideas, I have to stay in PS not to get crazy.
Anyway I want to finish it later in watercolour style in verve, so verve feeling was important for me.
I also like the pencil like style a lot.
Here is what I have so far. First I was struggling a bit and verve made my colours a bit more black, but in PS everything is fine. I redraw some mushrooms in PS and will do lots more.
No real difference visible ;)

Acorn-Thief_WIP-PS.jpg
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Edit
Just FYI
Very exciting as with same method you can paint in Photoshop like this:
EyeOnCanvas-Web.jpg
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Never thought that this is possible in PS. Sorry for the bad eye, as I never made some studies :roll:
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:02 pm

Re: Verve style photoshop CC pencil

Nice texture Knacki, almost seamless!
btw. Here is a simple test how Verve dim colors.

@Taron
Is it because of canvas texture in combination with color of light?
Even with material it goes from pure white (255,255,255) to white-gray (236,236,236) with just painting and smudging.
How we can lessen this effect? With light?
I understand we need this effect (for ups and downs) but how to control it? ;-)
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test_all_white_canvas_off_with_material.png
All white (255,255,255) with default canvas (texture) off, with material.
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:51 pm

Re: Verve style photoshop CC pencil

I do not understand, zen, sorry. :shrug:
If I fill the canvas with full white and paint with white on it and smudge around, it never changes color. Unless you mean the bump and how the light floods the canvas, of course. But then you can just change the light.
Do this:
select black and hit [L]
select white and hit [Shift]+[L]
Now you have literally no lighting on your canvas.
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:13 pm

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OH, and, Knacki, I'm sorry I haven't gotten to those things, yet. Piece by piece. ;)
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:22 pm

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Taron wrote:I do not understand, zen, sorry. :shrug:
If I fill the canvas with full white and paint with white on it and smudge around, it never changes color. Unless you mean the bump and how the light floods the canvas, of course. But then you can just change the light.
Do this:
select black and hit [L]
select white and hit [Shift]+[L]
Now you have literally no lighting on your canvas.


No, you understood it perfectly, I'm a noob hahaha! :ob
But ok, is there a way to get which ambient/diffuse light colors are currently set?
I'm asking you because this is one I got out of Verve, and this is after color correction.
I hope if I just brighten those lights a bit I could be more happy! :D
Thanks! :D
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:12 pm

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Just know that Ambient light is a frontal light, straight down onto the canvas and your light source is a point light with infinite strength. They add together, of course, so just pick your colors for them with that in mind. But there will come a light interface, possibly with the addition of multiple lights and a simple "off" switch for all of them, too, haha.

By default the colors are split in half between ambient and light source:
Light = 0.5, 0.5, 0.5
Ambient = 0.5, 0.5, 0.5

I'm attaching a color swatch set with solid combinations:
[0.5] - first swatch, good for both light and ambient
[0.75][0.25] - second and third swatch, pick one for ambient the other for light or switch
[1.0][0.0] - most extreme set. If you pick white for ambient and black for light you essentially switch off lighting. If you go the other way, you get most pronounced bumps!
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:17 pm

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You're so kind! Thanks mate! :ob :D
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Post Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:25 pm

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My signature says it all! ;)
...though, I think, I had changed ambient to be really fully ambient, meaning it comes from all directions. In the beginning I had it straight down. Anyway...
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