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What are the best settings for Simulating Oil Paint

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:40 pm
by ThaGOAT
I want to have my canvas react in a way that as much like oil painting as possible. I've noticed turning the fluid slider down makes things quite a bit easier but Im uncertain which fluid percentages resemble oil painting accurately. What types of settings for the fluid slider and perhaps other sliders should I set for the experience with this software to resemble oil painting as much as possible?

Re: What are the best settings for Simulating Oil Paint

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:15 pm
by Taron
Oh, this is fairly open, as you can sort of adjust how much thinner you'd use in a "simulation" sense, or what your performance preferences are regarding how your pen pressure manipulates the action.

• I most often end up actually painting without fluids or no higher than 15% fluidity.
• Smudge is an important adjustment, because it is responsible for how softly/aggressively colors blend. 100% is almost akin to average or even like a directional blur, while 0% is no blending, which is so harsh that it can even lead to bugs.
• Smudge (in the current version) will react to pen pressure on Opacity. This means (though maybe a little confusing) that lesser pressure increases Smudge. Thus, with pen pressure on opacity on, you might want to go to something like 15% Smudge.
• The alpha/opacity of the color can have an important influence on the paint feel, helping to suggest more thinner as you paint with it and slightly increase fluidity. It can go as far as feeling like aquarelle.

There are subtle influences as well, which include Fluid Blur, which blurs the vectors, leading to a different influence of your strokes, having the fluids spread out a bit more.
At the end, though, it's all open for your experimentation. Drying speed can have a massive influence, too, actually, as does "Curl". Try to systematically go through it and be playful. Eventually you will get a feeling for it and find your own preferences. The will vary with your mood, but eventually you will find your go-to settings, I imagine.

I can't wait to write the next version of Verve, because I have so many ideas and new experiences, which will greatly improve everything. Among them will come some proper presets a better staring points for certain styles.

As I said already, I can't wait to see what you'll create next, because you have such a mature style, such strength in it. Most exciting to me! c:!

Re: What are the best settings for Simulating Oil Paint

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:06 pm
by ThaGOAT
Taron wrote:Oh, this is fairly open, as you can sort of adjust how much thinner you'd use in a "simulation" sense, or what your performance preferences are regarding how your pen pressure manipulates the action.

• I most often end up actually painting without fluids or no higher than 15% fluidity.
• Smudge is an important adjustment, because it is responsible for how softly/aggressively colors blend. 100% is almost akin to average or even like a directional blur, while 0% is no blending, which is so harsh that it can even lead to bugs.
• Smudge (in the current version) will react to pen pressure on Opacity. This means (though maybe a little confusing) that lesser pressure increases Smudge. Thus, with pen pressure on opacity on, you might want to go to something like 15% Smudge.
• The alpha/opacity of the color can have an important influence on the paint feel, helping to suggest more thinner as you paint with it and slightly increase fluidity. It can go as far as feeling like aquarelle.

There are subtle influences as well, which include Fluid Blur, which blurs the vectors, leading to a different influence of your strokes, having the fluids spread out a bit more.
At the end, though, it's all open for your experimentation. Drying speed can have a massive influence, too, actually, as does "Curl". Try to systematically go through it and be playful. Eventually you will get a feeling for it and find your own preferences. The will vary with your mood, but eventually you will find your go-to settings, I imagine.

I can't wait to write the next version of Verve, because I have so many ideas and new experiences, which will greatly improve everything. Among them will come some proper presets a better staring points for certain styles.

As I said already, I can't wait to see what you'll create next, because you have such a mature style, such strength in it. Most exciting to me! c:!


Thanks for the help. Ill probably paint around 15% or so as well. I like the reactive canvas that this program has and it was exactly what I was looking for. Also thanks for the positive feedback on my painting! Ill be rolling out with some new heavier studies pretty soon here.

Re: What are the best settings for Simulating Oil Paint

PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:18 pm
by Taron
Most excellent!
Yeah, the canvas was one of the opportunities I was most thrilled about, when I started writing Verve. I wanted it to really act in a more physical manner, truly catching paint from the direction in which you'd brush over it. I have planned to add more behavioral traits, responding to different type of paint substances later on as well. Not to mention that I only recently wrote a really beautifully real looking canvas weave, which will also find its way into Verve eventually. :geek: :D