Verve v0.99z - discussion

[Taron]

AHHHH, I see! That's ironic, haha. This is because there's a new, experimental interaction between layers, especially designed for Additive (+) and Multiply (*) paint modes, which can see the paint on layers below!
If you have an empty layer under your new layer, just go to the lower layer and paint once and undo or clear again. Now go into the new layer and this will not happen.
Great find! I absolutely missed that this would happen, hehe.
No worries, all this will be gone in the next release, I promise!
But just so you know, this is because it picks up the "colors" from the layer below and if nothing had ever initialized that lower layer, it only sees 0 (black).
Thank you for showing this to me!

ああ、なるほど！ 皮肉ですね、笑。 これは、特に加算 (+) ペイント モードと乗算 (*) ペイント モード向けに設計された新しい実験的なレイヤー間の相互作用があり、下のレイヤー上のペイントを確認できるためです。
新しいレイヤーの下に空のレイヤーがある場合は、下のレイヤーに移動して一度ペイントし、もう一度元に戻すかクリアします。 新しいレイヤーに移動すると、このようなことは起こりません。
素晴らしい発見です！ こんなことになるとは絶対に思いませんでした、ふふ。
心配しないでください。次のリリースではこれらすべてがなくなることをお約束します。
ただし、ご存知のとおり、これは下のレイヤーから「色」を取得するためで、その下のレイヤーが何も初期化されていない場合は 0 (黒) しか認識されません。
これを見せてくれてありがとう！

[Taron]

...and there was a v0.99w09.
Yes, I'll have to retrieve this from my old machine, but that won't be a problem. I have changed and improved so many things so deeply now in the v1.0 alpha versions that it won't be really necessary. But still... dang it!
It's been a long time and I'm thrilled to be back for real!

All will be well!

The alpha map did not work very well if I export selected layer by ctrl+s. - Alpha is not transparent in unpainted/unfilled areas.

[Taron]

I still don't have proper internet here, but I'll have a look. I really think I'll create and release a free version of my v1.0 once it's done. Everything should be pretty excellent then!

Help , my verve has like completely broken and ion know how to fix it . all the brushes except 9 is broken it makes weird patterns and shakes the screen
Ill attach a video to show what i mean . Any help would be appreciated

[Taron]

Oh wow, I've never seen that before. Any recent changes to your graphics drivers or settings? Certainly looks like something outside of Verve itself.
But, yeah, that is a fascinating issue?!
Maybe you can tell me about your computer, what graphics card most of all. Certainly would be interesting.
Thanks for asking, though, that's great! ...we'll get on top of it together, no doubt.

My graphics card is a nvidia 1660 ti and my processor is an amd ryzen 7 4800h . I dont think ive changed anything about the graphics card

wow, I want that too!
If you share the .vrv and vrs files, we will have fun

[Taron]

pud! Trust me, you don't want this!

...yeah, that looks like the material paint shader fails, like something with the GL gets confused. Instead of the brush properly blitting to the material channel, it just leaves a fullscreen blob, while the color channels appear to work fine. I can't even imagine how this happens, but I also can't imagine that it's something Verve does "wrong". Something's fishy with your system somehow?! If anything, I had to clean up my GL code for everything to run on the Radeons, who are far more aggressive for any weird nonsense in Shaders than NVidia.

I wonder if anyone else has ever encountered such a thing?
Who else may be using the NVidia 1660? Maybe it's a new weirdness?

[Taron]

Hang on, which version are you using?
Is it v0.99z? Because the previous version had some sloppiness in the GL that used to be no problem, but became one with newer generations of cards!