Thanks Pilou

Your comparison to Groboto is spot on. I haven't tried it yet but after seeing Magica results.. Yes very Groboto with those!
Only Ply? Which is fine but being in such a really nice looking program? The manipulation controls look fantastic and the presentation was well done. I have been running into a lot of Ply files lately. I use obj and fbx the most. I am in a stage where I have been digging up really old projects and redoing or borrowing from them and right now I am in Sculptris/Zbrush mode. Rigging a model is sooooo much easier. Messiah used to be the better alternative but between Actor Core and Mixamo that problem is mostly taken care of. They just need to be able to provide Facial rigging also. I have made my sculpted characters walk.. Now I need to brush up on facial rigging and retargeting animation and make them Talk or roar or Squeak

Again lol. I am going to go download that now. Do you know the best way of converting Ply files to an easier format to work with?

upd: I see the company has partially moved to Patreon but I they have allowed Internet Archives to host their old files. They now have a demo and if you want any new full versions you must do Patreon. I am going to try the last build before they made the move. Blender is going to be releasing a PLY importer and exporter conversion to other formats soon. So the conversion process will soon be much more accessible.
https://archive.org/details/magica-csg- ... -33-20.png ( in spite of the picture link it takes you directly to the archives.) and here is the info they posted there:
Archive of all versions of MagicaCSG released to the public for free. These versions have been removed from the official site and new versions have further started to be published only on Patreon by the developers.
Upd: recently released a public demo version with cut out functionality unlike the Patreon versions. The demo version is now added to this archive.