With verve into the light

sorry for highjacking your gallery knacki,
I meant something like these brushstroke http://www.onlygfx.com/20-paint-brush-strokes-png-transparent/
look the first brushstrokes how even n clear are the lines the bristles leave, my Verve brush allways has some kind of oscillation.
or this brushstroke https://www.colourbox.com/image/newly-painted-red-and-yellow-paint-brush-stroke-impastos-image-1765194
in which you can feel the brush loading, how each of the mayor bristles groups kinda wipped out some of the thicknes of the paint while they passed over it to make the paintsroke,
and in the little spaces that the bristles didn't cover it remained a bump line of paint.
Imho it's not just a build up parameter, but a paint loading parameter and a carving parameter, the latter depends on PenPressure n Stiffness of the brushhead(how stiff are the bristles) these two last parameters determine how the brushhead bends and therefore regulate how the paint matter is carved/drag as it pass throught the canvas, thinning some parts of paint, leaving thick other parts. I have to verve out these things.
I remember Verve had some of these capabilities respecting on how paint reacts to canvas thickness, but what I described is not in the canvas level but in the bristle level. I'll check it out again. Hope Taron could take a look at this stuff.

PD: universal hotkeys, ara the hotkeys almost every 2d app uses, space LMB to pan, ctrl space to zoom, alt space to rotate.

Hey Eduardo,

FIrst option:
press 'a' and your oscillating is gone.
With 'a' you fix the brush rotation.
SHIFT+a to adjust angle.

Second option:
Uncheck green dot for tilt beside opacity. With tilt off, you are in mouse mode.
Before hitting the tablet with your pen, move a bit in the direction you wanna stroke.
This way the brush angle is set in the direction you move when you hit the canvas.

First brush stroke you can achieve with brush #9 + color image brush + Hue.

First Example.JPG (144.53 KiB) Viewed 10057 times

Second one is more difficult. Speaking in Verve language instead of bended bristles, it would be very lovely to have smudge on pen pressure as well - The low pen pressure more smudge, the higher pen pressure more paint.
With brush #2 and a combination of smudging and paint, I was able to create at least following one:

Second Example.JPG (159.21 KiB) Viewed 10057 times

Good luck! More about brush images soon to come

As mentioned, here are some tests with the image brush. This time just for shading.
Incredible possibilities!

definitely I have to give it a try,
I have to relearn Verve again, even there was a lot to test last time I verved
I didn't know the color Img brush, but I have to say it looks a little bit complex n pointing in an unnatural direction, I know Taron have said Verve is not only meant to be a real paint simulation.
But I really would love to have Verve brushtrokes picking canvas underlaying colors, and keep the brushhead dirty (with all picked up color)
In your imgs, do you notice the kinda zigzag patterns that appear in some parts of the brushstrokes, like the likes with less build up are not perfectly parallel, but cross each other from time to time, n even create a kinda bubble effect.

I have to test it myself, I going to make a schedule n try to dedicate an specific time to Verve out again.
thx Knacki for your support, if you can make the brushstrokes carv patterns evenly space, please post it, I'm eager to solve this out. thanks again.

Bubble effect - stuttering - looks like one is painting balls instead of a stroke?
Brush #9 is clean. No stuttering at all. And you have the bristle HUE, which is cool.
Brush #2 needs high speed switched on. (Right top corner button) Mouse speed down, fluidity up to blend.
Sure, some effects are looking not natural. Verve can be natural and much more.
It's up to you to get it right.
But it is an ongoing search.


Yes. theory is over! Now you should practise.

please knacki, take a look at my previous comment, I uploaded n Image example of that bubbling effect
please don't get me wrong, I love Verve, it definitely surpass many other natural media painting programs, but it has some issues that are only noticeable if you compare them with cold eyes I guess.
I remember Stavros talking about Verve's fluids changing from version to version, like previous versions the fuilds were more creamy, please notice I don't mean to ask to change the fluids behaviour or anything like that if it is that the case. Cuz verve fluids ass they are are very good for watercolor purposes, other liquid oil, n very thick impasto oil behaviuor(notice I don't say effect, cuz what I like the most about verve, is that you can almost feel that it is real paint, not just a stamp effect), So please Taron perhaps you could just add another knob to tweak the "parallelness of the oil bristles" or perhaps it could be added in the oscillate parameter. Many of the paint ways of working that I like in natural media were emuled in Verve, but I got problems with this paintstroke w parallel bristles behaviuor n with the pick underlaying color, if Verve can emule that, then I can rest in peace.

PD: please sorry for my bad caligraphy, but I made it as quick as possible. Hope this somehow could help Verve further research.

As I said. Switch off tilt and lines will follow.
But I found no way to recreate those very clean lines from Art rage.
I just tried Art Rage 5 - haven't it opened since the upgrade.
Yeah looks nice & different.

I am done for today. Everything swirls around.

thx very much Knacki for all examples, n sorry for highjacking your beautiful gallery again, also I did it again, I edited my last comment after you read it...

I remember Stavros talking about Verve's fluids changing from version to version, like previous versions the fuilds were more creamy, please notice I don't mean to ask to change the fluids behaviour or anything like that if it is that the case. Cuz verve fluids ass they are are very good for watercolor purposes, other liquid oil, n very thick impasto oil behaviuor(notice I don't say effect, cuz what I like the most about verve, is that you can almost feel that it is real paint, not just a stamp effect), So please Taron perhaps you could just add another knob to tweak the "parallelness of the oil bristles" or perhaps it could be added in the oscillate parameter. Many of the paint ways of working that I like in natural media were emuled in Verve, but I got problems with this paintstroke w parallel bristles behaviuor n with the pick underlaying color, if Verve can emule that, then I can rest in peace.

Never mind. Maybe taron get put this part into a new thread for the community about image brush.
Or just the important ones into the everlasting verve tricks.
Maybe then more people will see.

Cheers Eduardo.

I'm sure people can see and read.
not everyone is on the same level of communication
I admit that all the time, I'm on the forum but only read
Yes! Taron has created a huge space, a small world to explore for us
THX for all of you