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Post Sun May 03, 2020 3:56 pm

Re: White Rabbit CAD

Something i don't succes is drawing Markings! :( Maybe it's not implemented ?

Else here we are all like that! It's vital! :oops:

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Post Sun May 03, 2020 4:23 pm

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I'm not totally sure what you mean. If you mean markings on a patternpiece, like having extra lines on top of "polygons", you can add any line or any tool as markings on any patternpiece you have already extracted using the "Markings" button. Which will then ask you to select a patternpiece and then offer to "Add", "Remove" or "Remove All" markings.
If you mean marking points on a line, those you only get via Subdivision.
But those are great reminders that I need to make a better manual, haha... :oops: ...so many options, you know.

I should add that those markings on lines are not really "vital" at all. Since you can always break lines without hassle and the procedure of making lines is so quick and easy with the instant snapping. It's almost inconvenient to use "marks".
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Post Sun May 03, 2020 9:28 pm

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I had believed that Markings were like "chalk dash line" on/ inside the pattern! :)
I must remake some tests :)
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Post Sun May 03, 2020 9:45 pm

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Oh, no, in pattern construction you may leave marks in your construction for like waist-height or other orientation guides as well as for what is called "darts" and/or lines to make "slash and spread" or "slash and pivot", by which the patternpiece is being cut and spread in various ways. These markings are all part of the construction process for the patternpieces of the model. You later use those patternpieces to cut fabric for the sewing.
The chalk lines you mean may be what you remember seeing at a tailor's studio, when they mark changes during what is called "draping", for example. This is when they try to fit a garment onto a client and may use chalk or pins to mark those changes. That is a different kind of process. In a way it's the inverse of flat pattern construction.
With what I've learned from Oli about the whole process, I believe, White Rabbit can become a curious hybrid with a novel way of "draping" flat patterns. I have some ideas that certainly would be new to this process.

You know, flat patterns have a special kind of magic, which "draping" on a person can never achieve. Constructing flat patterns allows one to truly conceive the human form and design/engineer clothing by logic and esthetics, leading to much more naturally fitting clothes, considering movement and posture in a way that draping just cannot. In a way it reminds me of modeling low resolution cages in 3d, considering how animation would bend and stretch the fundamental form. When you apply detailed displacements later on, they more likely will move naturally. If someone just takes a random blob and then sculpts tons of details on it, animating it later on will not have the same organic sense of cohesion or perfection.
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 1:11 am

Re: White Rabbit CAD

Seems your last post is full of paradigms that i must study each words! 8-)
And look again the videos! ;)

PS Something i forgotten to say:)

When you launch the program you have a Splach screen with the White Rabbit!
But nothing say that you must click on it for run it! :shock:
I stay 10 minutes in front of believing that was the loading of the prog! :mrgreen:
So please integrate something waiting a click from the user! :beer:
At each time i forgot to click! :oops:
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 7:39 am

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:lol: :oops: .... :ob ... will do!
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Post Tue May 05, 2020 9:08 am

Re: White Rabbit CAD

Understood the mecanism of "Markings" by hasard! :oops:

That was very cryptic ! (for me) :D
I am very slow minding! :lol:

Something else (very minor) : you speak about tools like in "Select tools" (for quasi anythings...splines, lines, etc) who define the Pattern
Geometries will be not more adapted ?
for me a tool is like a screw or hammer ...Spline, line... like a function :)

There is not a Copy / Rotate ? (with a pressing key in the same time)
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Post Tue May 05, 2020 9:15 am

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Yeah, we did have a debate about naming some things, but this makes a bit more sense, if you think about it like what one would USE to draw. Think of lines, curves, arcs as if they were rulers, for example. You would use a ruler to make a line, or a curve-guide to make a curve....and so on. So, really, this is a set of tools to create lines, curves, circles, arcs and text.

Remember Zbrush with the confusing naming?! :hihi: ...freaked me out back then, too. But it does make sense at the end.
However, what would You want to call them, Pilou? :geek:
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Post Tue May 05, 2020 9:16 am

Re: White Rabbit CAD

I would say geometry :)

There is not a Copy / Rotate ? (with a pressing key in the same time? )
In fact i found CTRL + C but all are overlaped at the start...if i don't want rotate it for the moment...
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Post Tue May 05, 2020 9:25 am

Re: White Rabbit CAD

DXF export is ready and will be in the next update! ;)

I've also added Clipboard copy/paste, allowing you to use copy fully integrated into common pipeline. Funny side-effect, you'll get plain text in the clipboard, allowing you to potentially write your own geometry in a text editor, copy the text and paste it into White Rabbit, hahaha... it actually works, if you know what you're doing! :hihi: :D

Also, Ctrl+D will duplicate selected geometry.
Also, clothing pattern makers likely will look even more confused, if they read "geometry". Think of the target group! These are not machine engineers or architects.
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