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Post Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:10 pm

Re: Organic bristle marks

Here's an example for what I've meant up there:

USING BRUSH IMAGES AS LIGHTING COLOR MODIFIERS...
example_img_lights.jpg
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Here you can see three brush images: [SHADOW] [LIGHT] [BOUNCE LIGHT]
The color swatches show the colors used on the painted box, except the white I applied last to show my wife what this can do, hahaha. No other color had been used!
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:14 pm

Re: Organic bristle marks

That looks great and so simple idea ! What are those floating colours on right ? I realized that + mode actually works like i want in that hue change suggestion cause when i pick different colour then it adds light towards this colour , same could be used for multiply mode and it would be perfect :)
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Post Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:40 pm

Re: Organic bristle marks

Although unusual, this is actually an alternative that is, in a way, more traditional with bonus of simplicity.
After doing this I realized that it might be cool to have a color and a color modifier color. This could come in very handy.

Anyway, the floating colors are color swatches: [Shift]+[c] to toggle visibility of it. Check the docs for me info!
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:02 am

Re: Organic bristle marks

Regarding your very first question, have you seen the image brush collection?
http://www.taron.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14251#p14251
I made one leaf brush there. Even though I guess it's not directly your question, there are plenty of options to play with it to get what you are looking for.
Unzip and load it directly into verve. Use brush #10.

Ultra cool feature is that you can record multiple pictures and they will be played back during stroking like an animation. This avoids typical repetition.

Hidden features are:
Oscillate chaos over 180 is like scatter in PS.
Increase Bristles to paint more images by distance
Uncheck "col" to paint in the color you want, check col to paint in image picture.

I made a second leaf brush quickly.
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Attached is the brush and the settings for verve. You can direct the leave orientation with your pen tilt.

increase bump to get very quick volume (carefully ;) ). Increase fluid & blend to give it a more "wet on wet" look.

Another option is to paint just single leafs. Top left window, beside col you can adjust if the images are played through, random or just the selected is used. With a bunch of leaf proxies you really have a lot of possibilities.
One demo with a bit more contrast.
Leafes_demo.jpg
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And for sure you can create a bunch of different bristles too if you want to go more abstract ;)
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:56 am

Re: Organic bristle marks

as you see there is semi transparency when you use custom image brush and i dont really want that, its kinda smudgy effect :) im fine with making individual leaves right now, i tried custom brushes as first thing to solve my issue.
I will try that again tho to see if i can get them without mudiness and semi transparency, thanks !
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Ok i gave it a go and tried , results are very nice ! Thanks for that brush, i dont have that smudge effect on borders and looks fine :) probably gonna make my own with subtle brush trails or import some.
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Here i made my own leaf brush :)
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8RnYS ... sp=sharing
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:25 am

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Ahaha, you guys are great! :ob
When you use images and want them crisp, you don't use fluidity! Unless you know what you want with the fluidity, of course, and there are great things one can get with that, too! It's just not what a PS user would expect.

The other thing I should add is a custom pivot point. That's too come, too, but maybe not in the next version.

Anyhow: GREAT LEAVES! c:!
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:12 am

Re: Organic bristle marks

I've added USE of images for brush #2 and #3 as a little test. It's pretty amazing. Somewhere inside 5 seconds you make this canopy! c:!
...and I actually had the fluids slightly on when I was painting them. Those brushes react a little differently, which is really nice. :)

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Attached is also the VRI with those leafs (leaves - spelling seems open on that one, haha). :shrug:
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:10 pm

Re: Organic bristle marks

Wow taron, that looks convincing but bwwd brush is exactly what he was looking for, wasn't it?

Recording image brushes is sometimes better to turn off canvas, as you may double the effect later when painting again.
If your brush is fully opaque and you turn off transparency while drawing with the image brush, it will paint fully opaque.
I didn't do that in my example. It seems that you know that already, but maybe others are interested in the solution. ;)
Fluids and image brushes are a different story. I guess that the fluids are taken the motion vectors of this rotated and oscillated brushes.
It looks like they are thrown into the fluid and reacting a bit like that (Would be cool if they would really, adjustable splat btw.). Therefore just a minimum of fluid can make the edges unsharp.

Bwwd - I bet you like "Ori and the blind forest" aren't you ;)

Finally I must say that both brushes are looking crazy cool.
Thank you guys!

HOLD!!!!! What have you done there taron!!!! Can I do this too with my verve version???? Where can I download :D


Hahaha, spelling the plural of leaf is a bit tricky. I have my leafs brush in my leaves folder i.e. :D , as I am uncertain. Leaves should be the most common form but leafs is not completely wrong is what the internet teaches me.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:24 pm

Re: Organic bristle marks

Great work ! Im planning to make more brushes for myself, when do you think new build will be ready ? I tried that tool abr2verve but after converting i have brushes upside down ? i think best way is to import transparent png with brush images next to each other and just move that rectangle around to capture them one by one when setting up brush images with "i".
I didnt played ori and the blind forest yet but looks very nice :)
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:26 pm

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I know, right?! So weird with that spelling, what ever went wrong there! :lol: :? :shrug:
Oh, I keep forgetting to bring up the coolness of having a series of images on the screen and then just moving the Image Selector over them. It's a very efficient way of making brush images. :geek:

Yeah, I will upload a new version soon...if not today already, but then it wouldn't be complete. Things I have started will take a bit longer, but will be very cool! In their current state the lasso tool is extremely crude and the Layer FX are not functional, but .... that is taking the surprise away, of course. :P

Anyway...no need to keep you guys waiting for too long. Just don't expect everything to work, yet. :shrug:
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