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Thats it ! it behaves normaly when its on painted background, so its because of no paint on canvas ? bottom strokes are with pressure b ased opacity and size and theyre perfect ! But with blending enabled its still the same look.with barrels one after another or snake effect it kinda looks like blending turns on "negative colours" effect on brush where black/dark is turned to white /semi transparent and white/semi transparent is turned to black.

[Taron]

Yeeeh, never mind the blending for now! As stupid as that sounds, but just don't use it, you won't need it! If you need to blend, just use Average!
And, yeah, Verve has a special challenge I keep battling with, but it's essential for the paint behavior. I did write a different version that is more ordinary, but it just doesn't have the same kick when it comes to really "painting", you know.
Anyway...I'll work it out!
THANKS for testing, for sure!

Hi Taron,
Some remarks about brush #6 again.

This was old brush 6 :

Now the latest brush 6 (version downloaded this morning):


All was done in mouse mode with 30 mouse clicks, with default setting, except the color and :
- size [w] off
- canvas show off
- size : 300

=> on the latest behaviour, i observe that, unlike classical one :
- i cannot fully fill the brush size (here 300) whatever the number of mouse clicks and bias setting
- the bump is not an even dome but has an strange "inverted plate" shape (maybe on purpose ?)
- the edge is not very crisp even in bias 0

I suppose that this is due to the new feathering ?
But is it possible to have a bias position (maybe in negative Bias ?) for really crisp edges for a circle that fully fills the wanted surface ?

- also, the bias influence seems different (now the more bias, the less crisp), but that's a minor remark, it's just an new habit to take.

best regards,
GBoGBo

Is it reasonable for an artist to use a mouse with this sort of program ?
Only for engenieering things!

[Taron]

AH...do BIAS 99 or anything less than 100. I thought I took that off, but apparently not. Also, BIAS goes from -100 to 100.
Pilou, I've seen people do amazing stuff with the mouse, like Lemi, for example! Not to mention Mike, who started off just using mouse, making insane paintings! So, yeah... it's reasonable to support mouse artists.

[Taron]

Here's a small update for the BIAS situation. This should work fine now (and a few tiny processing cycles faster, too, hehe).
The issue with the feather of the brush tip now is that it used to be "wrong" or "lazy" and now it is "right" and "proper" for what one should expect. Before you could only have a proper feathering at 0% and everything above it would create a hard edge and funky fill shape. That would've been fine for 3d ball makers, but for painting artists it would not be. Now it favors the painters, which is in the spirit of Verve. However, I could later on offer choices for these things, too. This all hinges on hooking up proper brush GUI components and all that jazz.

Soooo, please, don't think I would abandon you on this, GboGbo! It's all a process and I still have to tune everything as I evolve not just Verve, but myself as well.

AH...do BIAS 99 or anything less than 100. I thought I took that off, but apparently not. Also, BIAS goes from -100 to 100.

OK Taron, Bias 99% does exactly what i thought we had lost ! Thank you.

The wise Verve artist holds onto previous versions and files different projects according to the version it was made in. The effects achieved in a project done in an earlier version may not survive the change to a newer version. I did a landscape early on that depended on layers and was starting to look almost photographic. http://www.taron.de/forum/viewtopic.php ... t=20#p5959 I opened it in the last version and it looked like mud lol. Fortunately, if I want to play with it I have the correct version of verve.

Sorry but yes. I am a part time 3d baller lol. I prefer to think of it as 2.5 d however without the pixol of Zbrush. 3d balling can create incredible depth and texture which combines with smudge and brush color over underlying color to affect highlights. Concepting characters in symmetry in Verve with the Intent of using it in Sculptris>Zbrush is actually easier than digging into 3d geometry from the get go. Building from the Verve sketch in Zbrush becomes ridiculously easy using Zspheres with the side benefit of being able to use that same Verve sketch/painting as the starting point for a base texture.

Sketching in this new version is becoming really nice and starting to feel more natural with the right settings. Damn, I am going to have to create a new folder

[Taron]

Yah, it's tough to make choices that will sit well with everybody. My primary focus is really to create a pure, lively painting experience. And I will focus on exactly that! Verve must not try to be anything else but itself and it still has so much growing to do.
HOWEVER, what ever is fun and progressive has a place in it for sure!

I've found a silly little issue with the color swatch glass and solved it. New version is up, but there's nothing dramatically different, of course.

Hi Taron,
I report a small bug in brush #9 with higher bias (here 100% with fixed angle) :

(each stroke prints this horizontal line to start with).
EDIT: also, the white bar in the circle pointer should be vertical in that case i think.

Best regards,
GBoGBo