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Post Thu May 07, 2020 12:45 pm

Re: White Rabbit CAD

All coders say me : you are a disaster as betatester : you are unlucky, you find only that works not! :mrgreen:

No doubt that you will find something for resolve this little glitch :)

Very cool the visibility's cursor! :ob
I will put all that on my Tricks & Tips French page (s) :beer:
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Post Thu May 07, 2020 2:51 pm

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Most excellent, Pilou, that's great! :ob :beer:

Betatesters are pure blessing, occasionally in a perfect disguise, hahaha! :lol:
But even Oli already loves you for what you're doing and appreciates the idea of betatesters deeply and wholly! :hyper: :PP :hyper:
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Post Thu May 07, 2020 4:46 pm

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Is beautiful that please without concept!
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Post Thu May 07, 2020 5:02 pm

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That's awesome!!! :hug:
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Post Fri May 08, 2020 9:24 am

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Ahhh it's so sweet to draw... c:!

DIscover that the triple Left Click select all connected "geometry! :ob
(but not geometries "crossed" maybe with a triple Right click ?

Little request : does it possible to have in the line Tool the Angle rotation ?

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Post Fri May 08, 2020 9:26 am

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Ahhh it's so sweet to draw...with the White Rabbit! c:!

DIscover that the triple Left Click select all "connected" geometries! :ob (maybe that was in the manual ? :oops:
(but not "crossed" (touched) geometries ...maybe with a triple Right Click ?

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Little request : does it possible to have in the line Tool the Angle's Rotation ?

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Post Fri May 08, 2020 9:54 am

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Ah, nice, you've discovered the tripple click, hehe! 8-)
As for cross-selection with right click...hmmm... I do like the idea. It would be likely hellish to program, because there are so many things that could go wrong, because one does not really know what's all crossing over and all sorts of special situations would have to be regarded and taken care of, but I do absolutely like the idea A LOT! :ob

Well, as for adding stuff to the line tool, rather not. We want to deliberately keep it simple and tight for the user, who wants to create patterns. Chances that such user would ever want a direct angle are next to never, likely never. Chances that an extra info with extra info would make things more confusing: 100%. Ways to achieve the same thing with little to no complication: easy and quick. Since you can align a new line in various ways to the tool you've snapped on, if you hold shift, you can easily do so and then use rotate on the tool for relative rotation.

IF for some reason it should ever turn out to be a powerful addition to the process of creating clothing patterns and would not confuse anybody, then we'd immediately hook that up, though! :ugeek:
...but I do very much doubt it.
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Post Fri May 08, 2020 10:51 am

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Seems funny to me the 2 decimals precision for clothes : this is confusing & creepy for user! :)

if you hold shift, you can easily do so and then use rotate on the tool for relative rotation.


Yes it's excellent! :ob But if this Angle's Rotation was shown in the line tool too you win some times! ;)
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Post Fri May 08, 2020 11:06 am

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Every single string gadget is something you cannot overlook. Especially, if you can enter values.
With your eyes and your mind you have to always consider what you are looking at, even if you know it well.
Now, if there is a value that is of no use to you as a pattern maker, but it's right next to the values you want to use, you always have to correct your gaze and your thinking to willfully ignore this extra GUI element. This is always unpleasant!

If you did decide to add degree for it, then you have to know what it is relative to. In the real world, for example, one would think that 12 o'clock is 0 degree, but in the graphics world, due to perfectly unknown reasons, somebody chose 3 o'clock as 0 degrees, which makes no sense to me whatsoever, but that's what it is. Now you have 1000 people and 500 of them know other graphics tools that fell for the 3 o'clock concept, while the other half is rooted in common real-world indoctrination, which has 12 o'clock as 0 degrees. Of course, only 1 of the 1000 actually cares about having degrees available for making a line, but at least 499 will be irritated about the wrong 0 degree origin, and 999 will be annoyed for life about having to worry about a meaningless gadget, stealing their focus on the actual work they want to do. :shrug: ...you think that's worth it?
And THEN think about those, who were snapping to another tool as they add a new line! What kind of degree would they want to use? Should the degree be relative to the snapped line (0 degree continues whatever degree it was aligned by) OR if one went by a tangent or any of these... what would be the original degree then so that it made sense or was truly pleasant? Tons of things that would beg for more precision or clarity and still it would be 1 out of 1000, who would have 1 line in 100 lines where they wanted those degrees?
See, thing is, again, this is for making clothing patterns and is highly aimed at those. I must keep saying that, because I remember that I had the same trouble during the design of it. Always correct your thinking towards the most direct route it is aiming at!
This seems restrictive or limited at times, but really, it totally powers up the actual application of it!
Naturally, there are infinite ways to add stuff and details and obscure luxuries or even clear demands for certain other applications and so on... it's a computer program, it could be made to do anything. But this one is for making clothing patterns, which is meant to make it awesome for pattern makers, who suffer when they have to use AutoCAD or actually any other existing app for vector graphics, because it's a pain to use for clothing. This is where we come in! 8-)

NOW, I should add that we're still working to improve it, to make it even more solid and powerful and your suggestions already are WONDERFUL and the things you notice are extremely helpful! In every way I want to encourage you to continue to freely explore and think about any possible improvements, OF COURSE! :hug: ...I just like to remind you every now and then that it's not AutoCAD - "Me, too", but really its own special thing, you know.
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Post Fri May 08, 2020 5:10 pm

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But this one is for making clothing patterns, which is meant to make it awesome for pattern makers, who suffer when they have to use AutoCAD or actually any other existing app for vector graphics, because it's a pain to use for clothing.


Agree! :beer:

About degree and "the line" it's of course from the first Click so the origin then around it like a ray of sunshine...
The SHIFT seems gives steps 45° but if i want 30° or 15° i must exit the function and make a real rotation...
it's yet fabulous to orient it to somewhere snap vertex existing
A compromise will be to have a step parametrised somewhere as preference (here its 45°)
and have inside the Line's Box input X, Y, Length the Angle as "visual control" (and more input ;)

It's a funny training to pass to the Right Click without release Left one! :D
We're all going to become Horowitz! :hyper:

PS For watchmakers it's 10 : 10 for show old analogic watches :geek:
So something like 120°(not a step of 45 ! ;)
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