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Post Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:10 pm

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Wahaha, omg... I made this amazing "texture" to test the compression and it's basically not compressable, hahahaha. Here's a JPG at quality 10%. One would expect that should destroy it, but- hmmmm- it actually still kind of works!
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:57 pm

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Suggestion : Pre calculated artificial textures ? (procedural)
Is beautiful that please without concept!
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:05 pm

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Just for info : i have found that on the Net...does this can help to the Vervette ? Or totally gadget...(of course i have not) :roll:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1355989774457307137
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:15 pm

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My plan is to open up shaders so people can write their own or manipulate those I provide. That means: Infinite Procedural Textures and more.
The gadget thing is cute. I just wonder, if a little blue tooth keyboard wouldn't be more attractive for tablet users?!
I have thought about adding Midi support, which would be really fun! There are many Midi controllers out there such as blocks of modules for Dials and likely Sliders. I think, it would be incredible to be able to use those. I still want to do this for Verve, too. In BlitzMax I've done Midi successfully already for a little synth experiment of mine. But, yeah, mapping controllers or even notes for parameters would be so fun. I'm almost 100% certain I will explore that, too!
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Post Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:45 am

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Taron wrote:C# is Microsoft's translation of Java, actually.


Sorry, I don´t agree. C# is much closer to C++ and I think it takes the best from C++. Of course, there is some inspiration from Java. The languages borrow useful syntax from each other (C++, C#, Java, JS). When I came to C# it was easy to understand things immediately because I know C++. Programming in Java is little bit different world and still I am not so familiar with it and don´t want to.

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James Gosling, who created the Java programming language in 1994, and Bill Joy, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, the originator of Java, called C# an "imitation" of Java; Gosling further said that "[C# is] sort of Java with reliability, productivity and security deleted."[23][24] Klaus Kreft and Angelika Langer (authors of a C++ streams book) stated in a blog post that "Java and C# are almost identical programming languages. Boring repetition that lacks innovation,"[25] "Hardly anybody will claim that Java or C# are revolutionary programming languages that changed the way we write programs," and "C# borrowed a lot from Java - and vice versa. Now that C# supports boxing and unboxing, we'll have a very similar feature in Java."[26] In July 2000, Hejlsberg said that C# is "not a Java clone" and is "much closer to C++" in its design

Taron wrote:And StackOverflow so often has some insane "answers" that people actually approve of, because they may technically be correct, but they're completely over the top and redundant. Don't get me wrong, it's a "godsend", but you have to know that it's basically like a mine, such as a goldmine, and you find veins or traces of gold, but never the gold itself. That gold is in your head!


If we can focus mainly on one or two things, we can become a guru if we want. But it is a very different situation if you focus on one or two projects for a long time or there is a need to focus on a different project almost every half year or month. There are many situations when I simply don´t have time to write and develop all code and have to use and rely on libraries or StackOverflow advice. And not to mention when I go back to the old thing after a long time..

Taron wrote:My plan is to open up shaders so people can write their own or manipulate those I provide.

It will be very cool! :!: :ob

Your texture is really nice! Something like between metal and lava! :ob

Pilou daily results are great too! c:!
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Post Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:50 am

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Thanks, Lemi! :ob
Ahaha, it's not an opinion, regarding C#, but something I've heard about the story behind both Java and C#. I know that my background in C and C++ made it fairly easy to get into Java, too. Except that one stumbles over its restrictiveness regarding types and the terrible (and terribly inconsistent) APIs that come with it (meaning JavaFX).
A few weeks ago I watched a set of videos regarding clean code on youtube, presented by "Uncle Bob" (Robert Cecil Martin): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EmboKQH8lM
It's quite good, actually, and he adds a bit of a history lesson regarding Java, too. Skip the intro, though! :hihi: :roll:

StackOverflow is to coding questions like Pinterest to image searches. One cannot get around it and it is a constant companion during coding. I don't think a day goes by where I don't end up there for one reason or another. In the beginning of my javascript and general web coding journey I spent a lot of time on W3schools, which is jampacked with excellent advice, but it's funny to realize how one migrates away from there, the more one knows. Questions lead to Web API references, GitHub and other advanced resources with W3 slowly drifting into the background. But it never fully goes away, hehe.

So, no, it's no shame at all, but the more you advance, almost everywhere you look, you get mostly just little pieces of information or rather hints and you have to come to your answers yourself. And that's good on one hand, but bad advice can make you chase down the wrong roads, too, and such advice can look perfectly valid. So, yeah, despite the stunning resources we have at our fingertips these days, you still are ultimately on your own and programming best comes from a deep, fundamental understanding without which you could not get very far.

Sometimes I love the journey, sometimes it makes me want to pull out my hair, well... that's just how it is and I'm almost 100% certain that every decent programmer can confirm that, too. :hihi: :shrug:
(I'm very, very uneasy around "programming gurus", by the way, hahahahaha...they worry me! :ud: :geek: )
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Post Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:05 am

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Haha, yes, I am pretty sure we understand each other! The right meaning of guru is different, yes, I thought somebody over master. But Master, better word for what I meant. :)

Edit: Uh video. I didn´t skip the intro you mentioned and I had to stop the video. I don´t feel comfortable with this type of presentation, maybe Uncle Bob is not pleasant for me.. :shrug: :) Don´t worry.
For me, this is example what I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhjNJTU ... =TEDxTalks :) Very interesting, Tom Salta is one of the music masters, like you!
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Post Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:09 am

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Midi to paint : cool transposition! :)
Suggestion for another one : transpose an object(s) 3D in 2D paint! (not a flat projection but like your Midi one an "interpretation" of the data base! c:!
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Post Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:56 am

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Lemivision wrote:Haha, yes, I am pretty sure we understand each other! The right meaning of guru is different, yes, I thought somebody over master. But Master, better word for what I meant. :)

Edit: Uh video. I didn´t skip the intro you mentioned and I had to stop the video. I don´t feel comfortable with this type of presentation, maybe Uncle Bob is not pleasant for me.. :shrug: :) Don´t worry.
For me, this is example what I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhjNJTU ... =TEDxTalks :) Very interesting, Tom Salta is one of the music masters, like you!


DO SKIP THE INTRO! You will not regret it, I can promise you! It's not at all the kind of presentation that it seems to be based on that idiotic intro. He's doing a good job and brings up a bunch of very interesting points. It's not a "sales video", hahaha.
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Post Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:00 pm

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Pilou wrote:Midi to paint : cool transposition! :)
Suggestion for another one : transpose an object(s) 3D in 2D paint! (not a flat projection but like your Midi one an "interpretation" of the data base! c:!

AH...ehm...I believe, I might have something like that planned, if I understand it correctly. Since I'm working with polygons, I figured, I will let lassos create geometry, which then can be moved and rotated in 3d space, along with the option to compute lighting, too, based on the scene light, but only as option.
There's one more dream of mine that I may consider developing later on, and that is to set and modify a 3d plane, which one can use to create landscapes, for example, by pulling up mountains and the likes, but really for the purpose of creating a 2d painting and not a 3d scene. But this is future-music. I'll see, if that will happen or not, but it's something I dreamed of for a long time.
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